c/agency-legal

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patricia_schmidt14•1d ago

My contract automation tool crashed during a client review

Last Wednesday I was prepping a service agreement for this new client in Denver, and my auto-fill plugin just froze halfway through. Lost all the custom clauses I had added for their data handling requirements. Had to rebuild the whole thing manually from a backup I made 2 days prior. Anyone else have a third party tool fail at the worst possible time?

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william_henderson•2d ago

Client signed a contract without reading it and then blamed us

Last week a client came back furious about a clause in their marketing retainer. They signed the agreement 3 months ago and claimed we hid the auto-renewal terms. I pulled the signed doc and showed them the bolded section they initialed. They still argued it was buried. Now I'm having every new client initial every major clause individually. Has anyone else had a client try to back out of something they agreed to in writing?

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henderson.vera•2d ago

Our paralegal signed an NDA on a napkin and now we're stuck in discovery hell

So last Friday I find out our junior paralegal at our Boston office accepted a client confidentiality agreement scribbled on a bar napkin. The client's a former FBI agent who claimed his NDAs had to be 'off the grid.' Took me 3 hours to explain to the judge that yes, we are bound by a napkin. Has anyone else had a client insist on some weirdo NDA format that actually backfired?

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lopez.simon•3d ago

Client tried to sue me after a sink install flooded their basement

I was in Greenville last March running a new kitchen line for a rental property, the fitting blew at 2 AM while I was asleep, and their insurance denied it because they said my work wasn't up to code, so I had to fork over $3,200 from my own pocket to settle - has anyone else had a homeowner twist a simple job into a legal mess like that?

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ray363•5d ago

The handshake that ended my casual approach to NDAs

Back in 2018 I was at a small creative meetup in Portland. I shook hands on a logo project with a local coffee roaster, no paperwork. Three months later they were using my sketches with another designer. That $800 lesson taught me to always get a signed NDA before sharing any concepts, even for a 30 minute chat. Has anyone else had a verbal agreement blow up on them like that?

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emery_young13•5d ago

I compared fixed fee versus hourly billing for a big project last quarter

Everyone in my agency group kept saying hourly billing protects you from scope creep. So I tried it on a $15,000 branding project for a local restaurant chain. I ended up logging 20 extra hours on revisions they called 'small tweaks' and ate the cost. Switched to fixed fee with a very clear scope document on the next project and it went smooth start to finish. Has anyone else found fixed fee works better for creative work when you define deliverables upfront?

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nathanj56•6d ago

Serious question, what changed your mind about non-compete clauses?

Was at a bar in Atlanta after a conference last month and a freelance creative director laid out how his old agency used a non-compete to block him from working with 3 key clients for 2 years. He showed me the actual contract language and it was way broader than I assumed was standard. That made me go back and look at our own client agreements... has anyone else had a client try to enforce a non-compete that felt unreasonable?

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karen_west59•8d ago

Our agency's liability waiver got shredded in court last month

We had a client trip over a loose cable at a photo shoot and our standard waiver didn't cover it. The judge said it was "too vague" and now we're out $12,000 in legal fees. Has anyone found a good template that actually holds up for on-location work?

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faith684•8d ago

Overheard my agency's legal counsel say 'we don't need to worry about AI training data yet' and I froze

I was grabbing coffee last Tuesday and heard our head lawyer telling a junior associate that using client content to train internal AI tools is probably fine since nobody's sued yet. This is a mid-sized agency in Phoenix with about 40 people. I've been reading about the Getty Images lawsuit and the whole deal with copyrighted material being scraped. My question is - are we just waiting for one big client to find out their campaign copy is part of some model? Has anyone else had their agency's legal team brush off this stuff?

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nancy_ross•12d ago

PSA: Paid $2,500 for a template privacy policy that was all wrong for our agency

I run a small marketing agency in Columbus and thought buying a boilerplate privacy policy from a legal template site would save us money. Turns out the template didn't account for how we handle client data through third-party tools. A real lawyer caught it during a compliance review last month. The fix cost another $1,800. Has anyone else gotten burned by template legal documents?

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derekjenkins•14d ago

Hit 50 client contracts this quarter and it totally caught me off guard

I've been running my little agency for about 3 years now, mostly doing contract reviews for smaller firms. Last week I was just tallying up Q3 numbers and realized I signed my 50th client since July. That number surprised me because I never set formal growth goals, I just kept taking referrals. Has anyone else suddenly hit a milestone they weren't tracking and had to rethink how they structure their workload?

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henderson.wesley•16d ago

Paperwork from eight years ago still haunts me sometimes

I ran into an old client agreement last month that I wrote back in 2016 for a small branding gig in Portland. Took me four hours just to dig through archived emails and find the signed copy because my file naming was a mess back then. Honestly I think we spend way too much time on the wrong kind of details when we start out. Anyone else still cleaning up old systems from years ago?

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the_tessa•16d ago

Comparing flat fee vs hourly billing for my retainer clients was eye opening

I switched three small clients to flat fee retainers after a lawyer friend suggested it and my revenue predictability went up like 40% in 2 months. Has anyone else found that hourly billing creates weird friction with clients over every little email?

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hugoh55•17d ago

Got roasted by a lawyer for my client intake form and it woke me up

Had a client ghost me after signing a retainer for a $2500 branding project. I posted about it in a legal group and some attorney ripped into me saying my intake form didn't cover scope changes. I went back and added a line about additional revisions costing $100 an hour. Has anyone else had a lawyer call out a dumb gap in your contracts?

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kelly_west74•18d ago

Went to a deposition at a law firm in Naperville and the conference room had a ping pong table

I showed up for a client deposition at some trendy Naperville firm last Tuesday and the conference room had a full ping pong table instead of a regular table. The legal assistant said they use it for client meetings to keep things casual. I had to set up my laptop on one half and take notes while my client was glaring at the ping pong net. Has anyone else dealt with a weird setup like this at a deposition?

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jamesfox•20d ago

Old boss told me my retainer agreements would never stick in court

He said I needed a separate fee agreement for every project, even small ones. After a $2,000 dispute last year I realized he was right, because the client argued the retainer covered extra scope changes. Has anyone else had a generic blanket agreement fail them like that?

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nathanj56•21d ago

PSA: I spent 3 years using the wrong contract templates from my state bar association

I used to just grab the standard service agreement from the state bar website for every client. Last month a client pushed back on a scope clause and I actually read the fine print. Turns out that template was written for general business consulting, not creative agency work. There was zero protection for intellectual property transfer timing. Had to renegotiate two existing contracts and missed out on $4,000 in licensing fees because I didn't know better. Anyone else found hidden gaps in those generic templates they thought were safe?

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ellis.mia•22d ago

That clause about 'unlimited revisions' blew up in my face

Last month I signed a $5k web design contract without capping revisions, and the client sent me 47 change requests in 3 days. Any of you guys using a specific number for revisions that actually works?

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phoenix_thompson4•22d ago

Client tried to ghost me after signing a $12k retainer

Had this one client last spring, signed a big retainer for a website redesign. Paid the first invoice then went totally silent for 6 weeks. I did all the initial discovery work, the wireframes, the whole plan. Finally tracked them down at their office in Austin. They said 'we just got busy, we'll get back to you.' Had to send a formal breach notice to get them to respond. Anyone else deal with clients who disappear after signing?

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wesley_martin•23d ago

Split test between flat fee and hourly billing for a small branding client last month

Flat fee made me $400 more but hourly kept the client happier with updates, which approach do you think wins long term?

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margaret_williams5•26d ago

Unpopular opinion: flat fees kill good client relationships

I used to charge hourly for everything, but switched to flat fees 2 years ago after a big client pushed for it. Now I spend more time arguing over scope than actually doing the work, and I'm thinking of switching back to hourly. Has anyone else dealt with clients treating flat fees like an all-you-can-eat buffet?

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the_joel•26d ago

Client asked for a contract that says they own everything even if they don't pay us

Had a lead last week who wanted us to sign a contract where they keep full rights to all our work even if they never pay a dime. Said it was 'standard practice' in their industry. I asked them if their landlord lets them keep the building after they stop paying rent. The silence on the phone was deafening. Anyone else run into clients who think legal protections should only work one way?

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perry.evan•28d ago

Am I the only one who thinks boilerplate liability caps are overrated?

I read a study from a legal analytics firm last month that said only 12% of agency contract disputes ever hit the capped limit in payouts. The rest settled or got resolved under the cap anyway. So why do we spend hours negotiating a $50k cap when the real risk is losing a client relationship over a $10k mistake? I found this in a report from Thomson Reuters about contract litigation trends. Maybe it's just me but it feels like we focus on the wrong numbers. Has anyone else seen data that suggests caps don't matter as much as we think?

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robin_roberts84•28d ago

Vent: Client tried to skip the contract review last week and it bit us both

Last Thursday, a new client wanted to rush into a campaign without signing our standard agency contract. I pushed back and insisted on a quick legal review, even though they were annoyed. Two days later, their vendor sent a cease and desist over a phrase we almost used in the ads. Now they're grateful I held the line. Has anyone else dealt with clients who think paperwork is just a formality?

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jamesfox•29d ago

Heard a young lawyer at a firm in Detroit say NDAs are basically dead now for talent agreements...

That comment about the FTC's non-compete ban making NDAs harder to enforce got me wondering if the old school 10 year confidentiality clauses I used to sign are even worth the paper they're printed on anymore, has anyone actually tested one in court lately?